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Submission to the National Inquiry into Children in Immigration Detention from

Tom Mann: Supplementary Submission


In regard to the payment of $1 an hour. It's true there was no actual payment in cash terms but the equivalent rate of one point to one dollar allowed the detainees to purchase goods according to the number of points they had gained. I think it is a mere technicality and that, argued in a court of law, they were being paid for their assistance. The perception anyway from the detainees and ourselves was that they were being paid at the rate of $1 an hour. In one case that I know, a detainee teacher bought more than his points value in dollar terms. In his account he had some of his own money. The equivalent in dollars from his work was credited to his account and the balance adjusted to take into account the extra payment required.

With regard to the other points on the provision of education services. It was not possible to provide the type of educational services outlined by the Immigration Detention Standards (IDS). The lack of classrooms, the limited number of teachers and the hostile environment for teaching were the main factors along with other constraints like classroom size and conflict with the DIMIA method of processing. During my eight months at Woomera, as far as I know, IDS made no attempt to contact any of the teachers to discover for themselves the constraints we experienced. We made numerous overtures to the programs manager and the centre manager and through monthly reports about the shortage of teachers and classrooms (all to no avail). In one case I was asked to reply to a series of questions by a Member of Parliament concerning the teaching at Woomera. In my reply I again pointed out the need for extra classrooms and teachers. If these documents are needed I can pass them on. We had the possibility of teaching at the Catholic primary school but that was denied to us at that time. Overall, we had to improvise to the best of our ability - like teaching in the mess on many occasions which was not satisfactory. When the new compounds, Mike and November, were opened for new arrivals there were no chairs or desks or whiteboards - basic necessities for teaching. The detainees carried chairs from the mess and returned them later. We used butchers paper until the whiteboards arrived after one month of waiting. In two of the compounds, India and Oscar, there were no educational rooms provided but we made do with recreational rooms. In all, I believe we did the best under a very difficult environment for teaching. For myself, I started the day at the centre at 7 a.m. to prepare material for the assistant teachers and to complete the daily stats for the previous day, finished the day at 6 p.m. and then there was evening work.

11 July 2002

Last Updated 30 June 2003.